Caller recounts husband's changed state and energy transfer after suicide attempt
A caller named [name withheld], who says they are calling from the [quote withheld] describes events they place in 1988, while they were living in Hawaii. After they found out about their husband’s affair, they consulted fortune-tellers, who said he would try to kill himself. They returned home to find him seemingly changed. They report the screen door shaking, the TV going fuzzy, and a force entering and choking their body. Then, they say, energy passed to them when he took their hands. They end by saying they think a “dark power” he once accepted as a teenager had taken his confidence, and that his spirit left his body and was in the tree outside the door.
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The story as told
The caller, [name withheld], says they are [quote withheld] The caller places the events in 1988, when they had been married about eight years and were living in Hawaii. They say their husband had an affair with one of their best friends and that they broke up with him. After a night away, they say, they went to “psychic fortune-teller people,” who told them their husband would try to kill himself. The caller ran home to the small house with a screen door.
The caller reports finding him in his chair. Asked whether he was going to try to kill himself, they say he answered [quote withheld] that a friend had come over and taken the gun from him, and that he had written a suicide note. The caller says he seemed entirely changed. He [quote withheld] was “flat,” and was “like cardboard.” In that instant, they say, the screen door shook open a little, which they took to mean he [quote withheld]
The caller says the TV, on low, began moving up and down with a fuzzy, snowy picture. The caller describes an “electrical force” hitting the set within a small triangle of space. Then they felt something come into their body, [quote withheld] When it stopped, they say, he asked for their hands and took both. The caller felt [quote withheld] for about a minute until they felt exhausted. The caller says he then told them he had closed himself off and [quote withheld] and was “back to normal.”
The caller says he had earlier told them that as a teenager in the Eugene, Oregon, area a voice offered him power in the woods and he accepted it. The caller says they now think he [quote withheld] to give him confidence, that his spirit left his body when he was contemplating suicide, and that it was [quote withheld] Art responds that a person’s spirit might leave the body shortly before a completed suicide.
Reported events, in order
- 0:03
The caller gives their name as [name withheld] and says they are [quote withheld]
- 0:19
The caller places the events in 1988, when they were married about eight years and living in Hawaii. They say their husband had an affair with one of their best friends and they broke up with him.
- 0:46
The caller says “psychic fortune-teller people” told them their husband would try to kill himself, and they ran home.
- 1:03
The caller arrived at the [quote withheld] He was sitting in his chair and told them he had “just about” killed himself, that a friend had taken the gun, and that he had written a suicide note.
- 1:35
The caller noticed he had no energy, was “flat,” and was “like cardboard.”
- 1:49
The screen door shook open a little. The caller says it was like he [quote withheld]
- 2:26
The TV, on low, began moving up and down with a fuzzy, snowy picture. The caller felt an “electrical force” hit the set within a small triangle of space about 15 feet.
- 2:54
When the TV stopped, the caller says they felt something come into their body, [quote withheld]
- 3:18
He scooted forward, asked for their hands, and took both. The caller reports energy running through their body for about a minute, then exhaustion.
- 3:37
He told the caller he had closed himself off and [quote withheld] and then was “back to normal.”
- 4:08
The caller says he had described a voice in the woods, when he was a young teenager in the Eugene, Oregon, area, offering him power, which he accepted.
- 4:16
The caller gives their own view: he allowed a “dark power” to give him confidence, his spirit left his body when he was contemplating suicide, and it was [quote withheld]
Claims
Each claim is labeled as something the person telling the story noticed (observation), what they made of it (interpretation), something others told them (hearsay), or something the host said (host statement).
- hearsay· 0:31
The caller says their husband had an affair with one of their best friends and that they ended the relationship.
- observation· 0:46
The caller says people they describe as “psychic fortune-teller people” told them their husband would try to kill himself.
- hearsay· 1:11
The caller says their husband told them he had “just about” killed himself but a friend took the gun from him and he had written a suicide note. (Relayed secondhand from the husband.)
- observation· 1:41
The caller says he seemed without energy and “flat,” which they describe as being “like cardboard.”
- observation· 1:49
The caller says the screen door shook open slightly at that moment.
- observation· 2:39
The caller says the TV, on low, began moving up and down with a fuzzy, snowy picture.
- observation· 2:26
The caller says they felt an “electrical force” hit the TV set within a small triangle of space about 15 feet.
- observation· 2:54
The caller says they felt something come into their body and a choking feeling from the inside.
- observation· 3:23
The caller says energy ran through their body while he held both their hands, for about a minute, after which they felt exhausted.
- hearsay· 3:41
The caller says he told them he had closed himself off and [quote withheld] after which he was “back to normal.”
- hearsay· 4:08
The caller says he told them that as a young teenager in the Eugene, Oregon, area a voice offered him power in the woods and he accepted it.
- interpretation· 4:16
The caller’s view: he had allowed “this dark power” to give him confidence.
- interpretation· 4:30
The caller’s view: his spirit left his body when he was contemplating suicide.
- interpretation· 4:33
The caller’s view: the spirit was [quote withheld]
- host statement· 4:56
The host offers his own general suggestion that a person’s spirit may leave the body shortly before a completed suicide.
Scores, with reasons
An AI model gave these scores using a fixed set of scoring rules (scoring-v1). They are editorial judgments and rough guides, not the odds that anything paranormal happened. How scoring works.
This is a detailed, consistent firsthand story whose main sequence hangs together and answers the host’s questions. It is weakened by ordinary possibilities nobody addresses and by the hedged, impressionistic description of the physical events. It scores in the upper middle of the scoring guide, below the 70 mark because ordinary explanations are not considered.
Evidence for and against
- Firsthand story from the person who says they experienced it ([quote withheld]).
- Concrete anchors: the year 1988, about eight years of marriage, Hawaii, a [quote withheld] and a [quote withheld]
- A consistent time order from the fortune-tellers’ warning to the return home to the energy transfer, with answers to Art’s clarifying question ([quote withheld]—[quote withheld]).
- Ordinary explanations (an acute distress reaction, depressed withdrawal, an electrical or antenna fault, air on the door) are not addressed by the caller and fit parts of the story.
- Key elements, the screen door shaking and the “electrical force” hitting the TV, are described in vague, hedged terms ([quote withheld]).
- The husband’s reported encounter in the woods and his suicide attempt are secondhand.
- The transcript is choppy in one stretch (many one- and two-word lines), so the exact order of the bodily sensations is unclear.
- The label showing who says [quote withheld] appears to be wrong.
- 0:03
- 1:26
- 2:54
What the model inferred (not said on air): The scores by part (closeness to the source 22 of 25, detail 13 of 20, consistency 14 of 20, ordinary explanations 6 of 20, calibration of claims 8 of 15, totaling 63) are my editorial judgment from the transcript content, not stated by the caller.
Only the caller’s word, with no documentation examined and no second witness on air. A few place and date details are named but not verified. This puts it in the bottom range.
Evidence for and against
- The caller’s firsthand word is all of the evidence.
- Some anchors that could be checked in principle are given (1988, Hawaii, Eugene, Oregon), but none is checked.
- No photograph, recording, document, or physical trace is offered or examined.
- The only other participant (the husband) does not speak on air. The caller relays his statements.
- Nothing in this part of the broadcast could be verified from outside, and no outside check was done.
- 4:08
What the model inferred (not said on air): Scores are assigned by the scoring guide’s description of what independently checkable support exists, not by how compelling the story is.
Unsettling rather than frightening: a feeling of something entering their body, a suicide context, and a vague dark power, but no visible threat, no escalation, and an unresolved, low-key ending.
Evidence for and against
- A suicide attempt, a suicide note, and a gun are part of the setup.
- Something entering the body: [quote withheld] something [quote withheld]
- A described “electrical force” hitting the TV and a screen door shaking by itself, plus a “dark power” and a spirit left [quote withheld]
- No figure is seen, and no harm is described beyond a choking feeling and exhaustion.
- The story is ambiguous and ends quietly with the host’s brief comment rather than a sustained escalation.
- The caller’s own emotional tone is not used in this judgment.
- 3:08
- 4:33
What the model inferred (not said on air): The rating reflects the story’s elements and pacing as a listener would receive them, not any claim about truth.
A familiar [quote withheld] story carrying several distinctive details (the TV disturbance, the energy passed through held hands, the spirit in the tree). The provisional model score is 58. The published originality score will be computed by the pipeline compared with the archive.
Evidence for and against
- The combination of a spouse seen as “flat” or vacant, a screen door shaking, a rolling TV picture, and a felt transfer of “life energy” through held hands is a relatively uncommon cluster.
- The specific detail of a spirit thought to be [quote withheld] is distinctive.
- The overall pattern of a person changed or “not all there,” a spirit leaving the body, and a bargain for power reworks familiar motifs.
- The comparison with the rest of the archive is not yet computed. The site labels the score provisional.
- 3:24
- 4:36
What the model inferred (not said on air): This is a provisional judgment based on content. Novelty compared with the rest of the archive is not computed here.
Scoring confidence 0.70 · analysis confidence 0.70 · checked against outside sources: no · evidence available: The caller’s firsthand telephone story; No photograph, recording, or document offered or examined; No second witness speaks on air. The husband’s alleged statements are secondhand. The originality score blends the model's score (58) with how rare the story's details are across the archive. This method is still provisional.
Ordinary explanations to consider
These are possibilities only. None is a finding about what happened.
- Acute distress or a stress or panic reaction at the moment of the reported bodily sensations. · The caller describes being “very upset” and having just learned of a suicide attempt. Acute emotional stress or a panic or hyperventilation response is one ordinary possibility for the reported choking and “energy” sensations. This is offered only as a hypothesis about the reported events.
- The husband’s flat, drained manner could reflect a depressed or withdrawn state rather than an absent spirit. · The caller says he had “no energy,” was “flat,” and was “like dry cardboard.” Withdrawal and a blunted emotional state are commonly reported after a suicide attempt or in depression. This is offered only as a hypothesis about the reported events.
- A simple electrical or antenna fault, or air moving the screen door, could account for the TV and door disturbance. · The caller describes a [quote withheld] and the TV going “fuzzy and snowy.” A loose antenna or connection, a flicker in the household current, or movement of the screen door could cause the reported TV disturbance. This is offered only as a hypothesis about the reported events.
What stands out
The reported event is not a sighting but a claimed transfer of energy. The caller says their husband seemed “flat” and absent, then they felt a force enter their body and drain through their clasped hands. The detail that a spirit ended up [quote withheld] is also unusual.
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