Dreams, levitation and handprint marks on a Clarksburg property
A caller the host addresses as [name withheld], from Washington, tells a long, rambling story about a property near Clarksburg, California. He covers its late-1800s reclamation and landscaping history and what he describes as Native American burial use of the land. He says he had recurring dreams of being lifted up through a ceiling light socket and woke with marks, including handprints on his ankle that he says he could not have made. He ends with a night when a woman he was with held him down because, in her words, he kept levitating off the bed. The host cuts the call short.
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The story as told
Calling from Washington, a man the host addresses as [name withheld] says he wants to tell the history of a property in an area called Clarksburg, California, about 14 miles from the capital steps. He says that in the 1890s a group reclaimed Delta floodplain land using pumping stations. A man named [name withheld], described as the person who did landscaping in Golden Gate Park, landscaped the property and made it a “signature piece,” he says. A man named [name withheld] later came into the property, which he says is all public record. He says the Native Americans occupying the area considered the land spiritual and buried their dead there. He says he was working to bring the property back up to market. The host repeatedly asks him to get to the heart of the story.
He then describes summer siestas at about 2 p.m. on a water bed. He describes recurring dreams with electrical imagery in which, he says, he was being lifted up through a light socket in the ceiling. He woke with “physical marks.” He says he showed the marks to people. They were handprints on his ankle, he says, that he could not have put there himself. He addresses and rejects the idea that he had simply scratched his leg. He mentions meeting a spiritual woman who was a runway model and an agency handler.
In a later dream he says he passed between the bedroom and a brightly lit green kitchen with a checkerboard floor and lights dimming up and down. He told her to wake him because [quote withheld] a term he says he used for the unseen beings he says haunted the property. He says he then found himself back in bed with her holding him down because, in her words, he kept coming off the bed levitating toward the ceiling fixture. The host thanks him and moves to the next caller.
Reported events, in order
- 0:00
The caller, addressed by the host as [name withheld] from Washington, begins to describe the history of a property in an area called Clarksburg, California, about 14 miles from the capital steps.
- 0:57
He says that in the 1890s a group reclaimed Delta floodplain properties with pumping stations, reclaiming the Delta region of the Sacramento area and down into San Joaquin.
- 1:38
He says a man named [name withheld], described as the person who did landscaping in Golden Gate Park, landscaped the property and made it the “signature piece” of the land.
- 1:55
He says the land was spiritual to the Native Americans occupying it, and that they buried their dead there (the automatic transcript reads [quote withheld]).
- 2:42
He says a man named [name withheld] came into the property and that this is public record.
- 2:56
He says he was working to bring the property back up to market.
- 3:25
He describes hot Sacramento summers, siestas at about 2 p.m., and lying on a water bed with the sheets off.
- 3:44
He says he kept having dreams involving electricity and that he is an electrician, so he did not think it was more than his imagination.
- 3:58
He says that in some dreams he was being lifted up through a light socket in the ceiling, and that he would come away with physical marks.
- 4:09
He says he showed the marks to people who saw them, and that there were handprints where he could not put them, on his ankle.
- 4:48
He describes meeting a “gal” who was very spiritual, a runway model and a handler for an agency (the automatic transcript reads “Salad Agency”).
- 5:20
One night, after falling asleep, he says he dreamed of going in and out from the bedroom to the kitchen, which was brightly lit, green with a checkerboard foundation, with lights dimming up and down.
- 5:56
He says he looked behind him and told the woman to wake him: [quote withheld] He says he used that term for unseen beings that used to haunt the property.
- 6:03
He says he was somehow back in bed and she was holding him down because, she said, he kept coming off the bed levitating, in her words, going toward the fixture in the ceiling above his bed.
- 6:28
The host thanks [name withheld], remarks that they did not quite get there, and moves to the next caller.
Claims
Each claim is labeled as something the person telling the story noticed (observation), what they made of it (interpretation), something others told them (hearsay), or something the host said (host statement).
- observation· 3:58
The caller says he repeatedly dreamed of being lifted up through a light socket in the ceiling and would come away with physical marks.
- observation· 4:09
The caller says there were handprints on his ankle that he could not have made himself, and that he showed them to people who saw them.
- hearsay· 6:03
The caller says the woman he was with held him down on the bed because, in her words, he kept coming off the bed levitating toward the ceiling fixture.
- interpretation· 5:56
The caller says he used the term “spooks” for unseen beings that he says used to haunt the property.
- hearsay· 1:55
The caller says the land was spiritual to the Native Americans occupying it and was where they buried their dead.
- host statement· 6:22
The host asserts the caller “apparently liked electricity,” linking the electrical imagery to the caller's trade.
Scores, with reasons
An AI model gave these scores using a fixed set of scoring rules (scoring-v1). They are editorial judgments and rough guides, not the odds that anything paranormal happened. How scoring works.
Component estimate: source proximity 20/25 (firsthand for the dreams and marks, with the levitation reported secondhand from the woman); specificity 12/20 (named places, dates, people, water bed, ankles); internal consistency 8/20 (rambling, with the property history left unconnected to the personal events, and the host repeatedly asking him to reach the point); alternative explanations 5/20 (dream imagery and a water bed fit easily, and the caller himself calls it imagination); calibration 8/15 (he separates dream from waking and marks “her words” about levitating, but also states flatly that the spooks “haunt the property”).
Evidence for and against
- A firsthand description of his own dreams and of the marks he says he saw on his ankle.
- He addresses one ordinary explanation for the marks and rejects it: [quote withheld]
- He separates the dream state from waking: [quote withheld]
- The core experiences occur while asleep or napping: [quote withheld]
- The story is highly rambling, and the host interrupts: [quote withheld]
- The levitation is reported through another person's words rather than observed: [quote withheld]
- The transcription is garbled in places (for example [quote withheld] and [quote withheld]), so the wording of key details is uncertain.
- The labels showing who is speaking are automatic, and the caller's turns are heavily fragmented across lines.
- 3:44
- 4:09
- 6:03
What the model inferred (not said on air): The component split is my allocation from the transcript content. The transcript itself contains no statement about how believable the story is.
The story rests on the caller's word. It has specifics that sound checkable (Clarksburg, a stated 1890s history, named individuals), but they are not checked. Witnesses are claimed but not on air (the woman, and people said to have seen the marks). No photograph, record, or document is examined on air.
Evidence for and against
- Named places and people are given: [quote withheld] “[name withheld],” and “[name withheld].”
- A claimed witness is described: [quote withheld]
- No physical evidence is produced or inspected in this part of the broadcast.
- The claimed witness does not speak on air. The marks are only described: [quote withheld]
- It is not stated whether the caller's “public record” claim refers to any document actually in his possession.
- 4:09
- 2:42
What the model inferred (not said on air): I placed the score in the 11–25 range, which follows the scoring guide's range for [quote withheld]
The images of being drawn up through a ceiling light socket and of unexplained handprint marks on the caller's ankle are unsettling. The detail of being physically held down while reportedly rising off the bed adds intrusion into the bedroom. There is no threat, harm, or escalation, and the ending is abrupt rather than ominous.
Evidence for and against
- Being lifted toward the ceiling: [quote withheld]
- Unexplained marks on his own body that he says he could not have made.
- Physical restraint by another person while he is said to rise off the bed.
- No malevolence, injury, or threat is reported. The unseen beings are referred to casually as “spooks.”
- Much of this part of the broadcast is property history rather than frightening content.
- Because it is a dream, listeners may read the content as dream imagery rather than a waking encounter.
- 3:59
- 6:19
What the model inferred (not said on air): The score is set at my judgment of moderate eeriness. No information about listener response or the caller's emotions was used.
The frame, a haunted property, recurring dreams with electrical imagery, and a levitation episode, is a familiar one. The distinctive elements are the specific image of being drawn up through a ceiling light socket and the claim of handprint marks on the caller's own ankle. The weighting for comparison with the rest of the archive is provisional while the archive is small.
Evidence for and against
- An unusual image of rising through a light socket in the ceiling.
- A rare, specific detail of handprint marks on the ankle.
- Haunted-property framing and levitation-in-bed episodes are common ghost-story elements.
- Burial grounds and Native American spiritual associations are recurring motifs in the archive.
- The published originality score blends a model estimate with similarity to the rest of the archive. The archive part carries little weight here.
- 3:59
- 1:55
What the model inferred (not said on air): The 48 is my provisional model estimate, not a figure calculated from the archive.
Scoring confidence 0.50 · analysis confidence 0.55 · checked against outside sources: no · evidence available: The caller's firsthand story of dreams, marks, and showing the marks to others; A claimed second witness (the woman), described but not speaking on air; Claimed handprint marks, not examined or documented in this part of the broadcast; No photographs, recordings, or records produced or inspected. The originality score blends the model's score (48) with how rare the story's details are across the archive. This method is still provisional.
Ordinary explanations to consider
These are possibilities only. None is a finding about what happened.
- Dream imagery and body sensations while falling asleep or waking up during afternoon naps in summer heat could account for the sense of being lifted and for vivid dream scenes. · The caller says the experiences happened when he lay down at about 2 p.m. for a siesta and that he [quote withheld]
- The marks could be self-inflicted during sleep (scratching or gripping) or pressure marks, a possibility the caller raises and rejects. · He says [quote withheld] The woman is also described as physically holding him down.
- Movement on a water bed, which the caller says he had at the time, could add to a sensation of the body rising or shifting during sleep. · He says [quote withheld] and describes lying on the cool bed.
What stands out
The story is less a ghost story than a disjointed property history followed by experiences while asleep. The most concrete strange element is a set of claimed handprint marks on the caller's own ankle. The levitation is reported secondhand through the woman's words, not observed by the caller. The caller applies the term “spooks” to unseen beings he places in the property.
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